Talk:Beginner's guide to GUI

Putting Together

Do we need to start putting this together with combinations of the winner's tutorials? --Mattchewy (Profile | Talk) 23:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Code Examples

I haven't tested them all out yet, please revise them as necessary. --Camoy 00:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Subjects

There are some details I've missed, please discuss that here. --Camoy 00:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Contest

MDB put up a contest for this page, what user submissions have we had, and what has been added? --Camoy 00:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

1. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Screen_Guis made by roblox user Knexer
   • Seems like a pretty basic overview. It's a little too specific for my liking, going over one or two items.
2. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/GUIs:_Introduction made by roblox user MrBlockson
   • Relies on a YouTube video, which is pretty terrible, for a process that could be detailed in 2-3 pictures. the descriptions for items can be confusing and don't really help. It does however detail how to use each item, which is pretty cool. Scripting is pretty, not helpful.
3. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Using_Guis_in_Roblox made by roblox user blobbyblob
   • I think I like this one. Needs better explaination of the code though. ---Mr Doom Bringer 18:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
     • Yes, we should take the pictures from this one, they are really helpful. --Camoy 20:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
   • I stand by my previous statement that I like this one. It seems focused on how to set up a screengui so that you can toss in your own stuff. It does go off and tells you exactly how to build everything though, not sure if I like the second have of the picture tutorial. The scripting is given to you and the explaination line by line is clear, but it's a little too pinpoint. It's explaining how to write a specific script, not examples of how to work with different things.
4. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/How_To_Create_GUIs made by Roblox user sdfgw
   • Right off the bat it's fairly informal. Seems like it covers the basics. UDim2 tutorial is nice. Don't think I like the separate item descriptions though. FAQ lol.
5. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/GUIs:_Making_a_Basic_Welcoming_GUI made by roblox user TheMaster99
   • Specific goal for the process. Formatting is very meh, but anyway. The descriptions are not very clear, they ramble just a bit, and they tell you do to things without explaining why. Don't like.
6. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Creating_Your_First_GUI made by roblox userBubby4j
   • Ew. No explanations. Script block with no documentation. Correction, several script blocks with no explanations. Fail fail fail.
7. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/GUIs_BlueTaslem made by roblox user BlueTaslem
   • This one explains how to insert the ScreenGui, and then how to manipulate objects inside of that. Nice. The code could be a bit simpler. I like this one.
8. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_create_a_radar_GUI made by roblox user Scribbleno1
   • This redirected to Getting Started with GUIs, still edited by Scribbleno1. Doesn't explain how to create a ScreenGUI, launches right into UDim2s. This isn't terrible but I want that explanation of how to set up a GUI before you start talking about playing with it. Users need to see what they're doing to understand it. Goes on to tell you how to create a reset button without actually explaining what it is you're doing. Not good.
9. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Graphical_User_Interface_%28GUI%29 made by roblox user CLIPSE
   • Launches straight into how to make a button. What's with the random GUI interface example? Irrelevant. Button explanation is limited. Talks about the properties, kinda. Not well explained. Don't like this one as much.
10. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Setting_Up_Guis made by roblox user Mattchewy
    • ACTUALLY EXPLAINS HOW TO OPEN A NEW PLACE. BONUS POINTS. Explains UDims before setting up an editable GUI. Loooots of text in huge paragraphs. Needs to be exploded out into steps and needs more pictures for step by step instructions. Code block, but block is explained, kinda. Not very clear. Properties are ambiguous, not explained well and partially guessing. Not bad. Needs work, but not bad.
11. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Nickguletskii200%27s_GUI_Introduction made by roblox user nickguletskii200
    • Ooh, graphs. That dominate the page, but anyway. Graphs don't really make too much sense. And are still huge. Describes the difference between PlayerGUI, StarterGUI, and "public Gui" ?? Metaphors used in structure explaination are confusing, not a good analogy. "Your First GUI" is a mess of simple and not explained instructions. "Main Components" section explains a handful of objects.
12. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/GUI_Basics/Functions made by roblox user block1431
    • Two examples for the price of one! Except there's no step instructions on how to place them, and the wordy steps are not formatted in anything more than a paragraph. Then it explains the different GUI related objects that makes assumptions of programming use. Lists out a handful of functions and events with no clear distinction, but gives out a script example of how to use MouseButotn1Down, kinda. MouseEnter/Leave as well. Kinda. both not too well explained. Last line states that "I'm pretty sure you can figure out what most of these do." Well no, most people can't just figure them out on their own and look for examples on how to use them in scripts or otherwise. That kind of assumption doesn't make for a good tutorial.
13. We should also consider Beginner's_GUI_Tutorial made by roblox user Ozzypig which I added from the forum some time ago --GoldenUrg 02:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

    But Ozzypig has already made something on the Wikia. And plus, his guide was put here without his permission. I doubt he even fully knows that the guide is here. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Absolute_Beginners_Guide_to_GUIs by Ozzypig --Blocco|^{Userpage-Talkpage} 15:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

    • Long! Starts off with an explanation of what each item is, then talks about how to put them in. Order might want to be switched on that. Everything is in huge wordy paragraphs, it could be simplified. Start off with an explanation of how to insert one item with pictures, then reference the same steps, just with a different object. Lack of pictures is noticeable with the copious amounts of text. The tutorial numbers 3 and 4 are not bad.
14. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/GUI:_The_Ultimate_Guide made by roblox user nightname
    • Really long! Explains what a GUI is, what a handful of objects are, and launches into a picture based tutorial on how to add GUI stuff. Specifically, it goes from launching Roblox and ends right at the insert of a ScreenGui. Aww, linked back to our wiki for the properties of different GUI items. Goes on to explain how to add items, doesn't explain why you're changing properties or anything else. Scripting section is nice and simple, and is actually right what I'm looking for. Could do with a bit better layout/wording but it's good.
15. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Working_with_the_GUI made by roblox user SpaceWes
    • Starts off naming off a few objects, then moves to explaining UDims. And explaining. Gets pretty complex, actually, for some reason. Script blocks. No, and I mean absolutely zero documentation on what it does and why. Fail.
16. http://roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Guide_to_creatig_GUI%27s made by roblox user 1RATM
    • Straight example of how to copy a GUI found in a place. Sounds almost like an ad. Fail.

• What I would like to see
• Separate tutorials for how to set up a GUI for messing with, and then how to work with the basic properties of a GUI, such as UDims, transparency, order, color, etc. A la BlueTaslem's.

Gooey?

How on earth is GUI pronounced Gooey? It's either pronounced G-U-I or Graphical User Interface...

(SoulStealer9875, Send Message, Scripting Book, My Profile)

20:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

That's like saying why is 'NASA' pronounced NahSah. It's perfectly fine to say 'Gooey' in real life, but when writing, you write 'GUI'.

Trappingnoobs (Writer) Have I done something bad? Good? Tell me on my talk page 21:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I dislike it as well, but I think it's an accepted pronunciation. The computing department at my school calls them that.

NXTBoy (talk • contribs)

22:05, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

NXTBoy, when it says it is sometimes pronounced "gooey". That doesn't mean it can be pronounced in any other way. It is stating that some people try to pronounce the letters instead of saying G-U-I.--☩MrNicNac ☩ 10:25, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

What I'm trying to say is "GUI is sometimes pronounced [as a word], and when it is, it is pronounced as Gooey". Obviously, that's too verbose though. On the other hand, omitting the "sometimes" implies that it is always pronounced. It's a no-win situation, but I think it's best to mirror Wikipedia

NXTBoy (talk • contribs)

17:45, 29 September 2011 (UTC)