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While I completely agree with your first two points, I'm not convinced by the wisdom of the last two. [https://xkcd.com/936/ More character classes does not imply a stronger password, only a less memorable one]. That only encourages people to pick things like {{`|password12!}}. Furthermore, the more precise the restrictions on the password, the easier it is to brute force. [http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/07/passwords-vs-pass-phrases.html Pass phrases] are superior. {{User:NXTBoy/sig|date=20:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)}}
While I completely agree with your first two points, I'm not convinced by the wisdom of the last two. [https://xkcd.com/936/ More character classes does not imply a stronger password, only a less memorable one]. That only encourages people to pick things like {{`|password12!}}. Furthermore, the more precise the restrictions on the password, the easier it is to brute force. [http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/07/passwords-vs-pass-phrases.html Pass phrases] are superior. {{User:NXTBoy/sig|date=20:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)}}
:I completely agree with you; pass phrases are a lot better than passwords (especially if you use capital letters and punctuation correctly (or even incorrectly), not only words separated by spaces. Just adding commas already make them a lot more complex). However, why would you even want a "strong" password? As long as your password is neither "password", nor "qwerty", nor your username, your password is fine. Brute forcing, you say? Hah! Good luck bruteforcing a password on a website that has captchas. --[[User:JulienDethurens|JulienDethurens]] 17:40, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
:I completely agree with you; pass phrases are a lot better than passwords (especially if you use capital letters and punctuation correctly (or even incorrectly), not only words separated by spaces. Just adding commas already make them a lot more complex). However, why would you even want a "strong" password? As long as your password is neither "password", nor "qwerty", nor your username, your password is fine. Brute forcing, you say? Hah! Good luck bruteforcing a password on a website that has captchas. --[[User:JulienDethurens|JulienDethurens]] 17:40, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
::I understand your concerns. However, we still want the passwords changed, and we would still like them to meet the requirements. --[[User:Gordonrox24|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36B">Gordonrox24</span>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Gordonrox24|<sup><span style="font-family:Arial;color:red">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 19:55, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

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Thanks for the heads up.
(SoulStealer9875|ROBLOX-Profile]

@ 13:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
I"m randomly being logged out of ROBLOX.com now. Would this be part of the security update? My password, according to some random thing, will take a few million years to guess using a cracker, and it's different then ROBLOX's, so I think I'll be OK. However, I'm still getting randomly logged out of ROBLOX. :/ - Quenty (talk • April 10)
Nothing I'm aware of. I'd message [email protected] and see if they know what could cause that.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 17:52, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
It was the system clock. Ugg... - Quenty (talk • April 10)

"Must have 1 alpha-numeric character "

Do you mean "1 NON-alpha-numeric character"? If not, this point seems unnecessary. NecroBumpist 10:44, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

oops. Yep sorry about that.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 15:33, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Password strength is reduced by strict guidelines

While I completely agree with your first two points, I'm not convinced by the wisdom of the last two. More character classes does not imply a stronger password, only a less memorable one. That only encourages people to pick things like password12!. Furthermore, the more precise the restrictions on the password, the easier it is to brute force. Pass phrases are superior.

20:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I completely agree with you; pass phrases are a lot better than passwords (especially if you use capital letters and punctuation correctly (or even incorrectly), not only words separated by spaces. Just adding commas already make them a lot more complex). However, why would you even want a "strong" password? As long as your password is neither "password", nor "qwerty", nor your username, your password is fine. Brute forcing, you say? Hah! Good luck bruteforcing a password on a website that has captchas. --JulienDethurens 17:40, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
I understand your concerns. However, we still want the passwords changed, and we would still like them to meet the requirements. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 19:55, 16 April 2012 (EDT)